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Chris selected as K12OnlineConference keynote speaker Each year the K12OnlineConference provides tremendous professional development for free, and entirely online. This year, they have selected me as one of their keynote speakers. I am thrilled to have been chosen and look forward to participating in the conversation. Read the full post announcing all the keynote speakers here.

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Two quick links on Cognitive Load Theory I've been fielding lots of questions lately about Cognitive Load Theory. Here are two quick links that may be useful. First is an article talking about the practical implications of CLT on the design of learning. The second are some "recent" (as of 2003) developments regarding CLT. Happy reading! Update: I clarified the second...

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Practical advice on kids and Android app development After hearing about my students' success developing an Android app, I've gotten several emails asking for more details as to how I practically worked with my kids. Here are some pointers that I offered to the first person that emailed me, perhaps they are of some use to you. Please note that your mileage may vary. It's ok to not be...

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Publishing an App Inventor app to the Android Market As I mentioned earlier, my students and I published an Android app to the Android Market. See those links for more information on the background. This post is decidedly technical. First, once we finished the coding process, we packaged the app for to download to the computer. This is an option in App Inventor. This downloaded an .apk file....

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Designing and publishing an Android app with kids This post is designed to provide some context around how/why we decided to build this app. The more technical details of the code and how we published it will come in a future post. My students and I recently completed and published an Android app, and here's how we did it. First, the genesis for this goes back to a question I asked...

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A long chat with the Dekiwiki guy, Aaron

Category : General

A few days ago I posted about Dekiwiki, particularly lamenting the need for root access to install it. Aaron F, one of the bigwigs at Mindtouch, had commented on a blog posting offering help. He didn’t respond for a few days, so I posted again, frustrated. When he did respond (for the record, my original email was on 12/6, he responded on 12/12) his email read like this…

Installing DekiWIki currently is a total pain in the !@#. In fact, it can not be done without having root access, which is not provided on any shared host that I know of. We are a small team at MindTouch and have been hoping someone in the community would assist us in making the software easier to install.

Ok so he recognizes that for those of us dependant on shared hosting, DekiWiki is impossible to install. Unfortunately, Aaron articulates that it is a low priority for their team, and would be difficult to do based on their use of the mono framework (open source version of Microsoft’s .net service). So even if Bluehost would give me root access, they would have to have mono installed, which I highly doubt.

He did make an attempt to respond to Jamesen, who commented on my most recent Dekiwiki posting…

Jamesen, I’m sorry to hear you had a bad experience with one of our ‘commercial units.’ I am very surprised by this. Are you referring to DekiBox? The only dissatisfied customer that I was made aware of (and I’m not omnipotent) related to a customer thinking the device broadcasted a wireless network, gave them access to the Internet, and thought it was also an email server. I encourage you to contact us directly
“http://mindtouch.com/contact”>http://mindtouch.com/contact . Your feedback is very important to MindTouch. Alternatively, you can contact me at my direct phone number: 866 MINDTOUCH ext 1102.

For the record, I did not ignore Chris. I hope that Chris posts an update here and highlights some points I made in my email to him. I received Chris’ email, as he correctly cites, 12/6. I responded 12/12. I would have responded sooner, but I was on the road. Moreover, for the volume of email I receive daily a 6 day lag in response, imo, is really quite good.

I might strongly disagree with a six day turnaround being “quite good” especially given the offer for help as a comment. I emailed him the same day he commented. I understand being busy, I guess I am just impatient in this modern world. I assume that unless a response comes within 48 hours it will receive no response.

I called Aaron and we spoke. Partly I was curious to hear the Mindtouch side of the story in terms of no shared hosting availability and it turns out to be a market issue more than anything. It seems like the education market is not thier target. They sound like a busy company, destined for involvement in corporate wikimaking, which is not necessarily a bad thing, just a choice. I told him straight out that I do not forsee many classroom teachers using DekiWiki unless it is installed districtwide. I maintain that it is hard to compete with Wikispaces and Wetpaint.

So there, I have given Dekiwiki its due. Now it’s on to bigger and better things.

Comments (3)

Regarding Mono and installation in hosted sites.

You do not need root permissions to run Mono, you can install Mono in your home directory, and in fact, you can install as many Monos as you want on your machine (just choose a different directory every time).

Just use the Mono installer for Linux from our site. That one is designed to be hosted anywhere.

Thank you Miguel for catching that.

Thank you very much for your posts on DekiWiki and its ease-of-use or lack thereof. Your approach was admirable as, after having been pointed to the software by none other than mindtouch themselves, you give good detail into your own expereience with DW and found it to be difficult to work with and I got to tell you it was not very far from my own experience. You definately need to be a developer to make this sucker work and even though I feel I am technically knowledgeable and knowing that if given a week I can make it run on linux or windows i could install something like TikiWiki in a day and use the rest of the week writing wiki’s instead.




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