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		<title>Nightmare of a day (an open letter to Pbwiki and Wikispaces)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh boy has this been a heck of a day. I had an amazing day planned for my kids, with two days of the computer lab blocked off for our use. I was planning for us to spend our time exploring Ancient Rome in Google Earth and making placemarks, adding descriptions, reading the included Wikipedia [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy has this been a heck of a day.</p>
<p>I had an amazing day planned for my kids, with two days of the computer lab blocked off for our use. I was planning for us to spend our time exploring Ancient Rome in Google Earth and making placemarks, adding descriptions, reading the included Wikipedia articles. Notice I said I was planning&#8230;</p>
<p>I got to the computer lab to find out that Google Earth was not available to students. My workaround to that had been &#8220;fixed&#8221; so now I had no workaround.</p>
<p>And 20 students with nothing to do.</p>
<p>I scrambled and put together a project where they research in Wikipedia (rebellious, eh?) and then put their information into a PowerPoint presentation.</p>
<p>Not much else they can access.</p>
<p>I made sure to talk about the basics of good PowerPoint design, I ruled outÂ clip art use and cheesy backgrounds, and ended up teaching a good design lesson.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still not Google Earth.</p>
<p>I then switched gears after lunch and decided to pilot a wiki-based research project and created a new <a  href="http://www.pbwiki.com">pbwiki</a>. It used to be that as long as I gave the kids the wiki password they could edit until their hearts were content.</p>
<p>No more.</p>
<p>The recent changes in PbWiki&#8217;s login procedures have made it where they have to have a wiki invite key and then enter a name and email address.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>Even when I told them the wiki invite key and told them to make up a name and email address I was frought with problems with the software not allowing kids through. A lot of the kids simply didn&#8217;t know the basic syntax of an email address. Of course, you can&#8217;t not include a name and email address.</p>
<p>I asked for help in pbwiki&#8217;s <a  href="http://getsatisfaction.com/pbwiki/topics/is_it_possible_to_allow_anonymous_users_to_edit_without_logging_in">Get Satisfaction page</a>, but as of yet there&#8217;s been no answer.</p>
<p>So I switched to <a  href="http://www.wikispaces.com">Wikispaces</a>. I threw together a new wiki that didn&#8217;t have ads and had them go to work. I created new pages for each group and had them edit their own pages. Naturally, there&#8217;s a chance someone could edit someone else&#8217;s, but hey, it&#8217;s a reasonable risk.</p>
<p>Except that I wanted them to create a new page for each of the places I asked them to research.</p>
<p>They can&#8217;t create pages. Drat!</p>
<p>So back to the drawing board, they can&#8217;t create pages and I don&#8217;t have the brain power amidst answering a slew of questions to createÂ five pages for each group (and there are roughly ten groups per block). That would be counterproductive.</p>
<p>They progressed nicely once we got up and running, although I had loads of trouble with them typing in the wiki address.</p>
<p><a  href="http://exploringancientrome.wikispaces.com">exploringancientrome.wikispaces.com</a></p>
<p>How hard is that? Most of them typed exploring ancient rome wiki spaces into the address bar.</p>
<p>This tells me more and more than they know how to play but basic operations are beyond them, at times.</p>
<p>So, I implore you, pbwiki, let my kids edit with only an invite key. Let that happen on the free version.</p>
<p>As for you, wikispaces, please let my kids create new pages. Or let that be something I decide in the manage space section.</p>
<p>And for goodness sake, Wikispaces, it&#8217;s time for a more robust WYSIWYG editor. One of the reasons I love pbwiki is due to their integration of FCKEditor. My kids prefer it, too, since it lets you control your text so much more nicely and more fine-grained.</p>
<p>Ok there&#8217;s my rant. Am I missing something here?</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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